WASHINGTON — The first and only vice presidential debate between Ohio Senator JD Vance and Minnesota Governor Tim Walz featured an often orderly, policy-focused and even civil dialogue between the two men seeking to serve as the next president’s second in command.
One of the sharpest comments came from a debate moderator. Here are some of the most notable quotes from the debate:
“Gentlemen, the audience can’t hear you because the mics are cut.”
— CBS News moderator Margaret Brennan, who intervened after a tense back and forth between the candidates over immigration. Vance protested a clarification by a moderator about the legal status of Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio. “Since you’re fact checking me, I think it’s important to say what’s actually going on,” Vance said before both he and Walz’s exchanges were muted.
“I actually agree with that.”
— Walz, agreeing with Vance that some regulations limit the construction of new housing units. Both candidates throughout the debate expressed agreement on some points before driving home their own messages.
“I’m sorry about that. Christ have mercy.”
— Vance, after Walz noted his son had witnessed gun violence. “I appreciate that,” Walz replied.
“I’m a knucklehead at times…I misspoke on this.”
— Walz, when discussing discrepancies in his travel history to Hong Kong in 1989 that have been reported by multiple news organizations.
“Kamala Harris is not running as a newcomer to politics.”
— Vance, arguing Harris could have acted as vice president to make housing more affordable. “If Kamala Harris has such great plans for how to address middle class problems, she ought to do them now,” Vance also said during the debate.
“There’s consequences for this.”
— Walz, when discussing Vance’s unfounded claims about immigrant communities in Springfield, Ohio. Walz said Vance “will create stories to bring attention to this that vilified a large number of people who were here legally in the community of Springfield. The Republican governor said, it’s not true. Don’t do it.”
Republican vice presidential candidate, Sen. JD Vance (R-OH), and Democratic vice presidential candidate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, greet each other ahead of a debate at the CBS Broadcast Center on October 1, 2024 in New York City. This is expected to be the only vice presidential debate of the 2024 general election. (Photo by Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images)
(L-R) US Senator and Republican vice presidential candidate J.D. Vance and his wife Usha Vance greet Minnesota Governor and Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Walz and his wife Gwen Walz at the end of the Vice Presidential debate hosted by CBS News at the CBS Broadcast Center in New York City on October 1, 2024. (Photo by ANGELA WEISS / AFP) (Photo by ANGELA WEISS/AFP via Getty Images)
US Senator and Republican vice presidential candidate J.D. Vance (C) and Minnesota Governor and Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Walz (R) participate in the Vice Presidential debate hosted by CBS News at the CBS Broadcast Center in New York City on October 1, 2024. (Photo by ANGELA WEISS / AFP) (Photo by ANGELA WEISS/AFP via Getty Images)
Republican vice presidential candidate, Sen. JD Vance (R-OH), and Democratic vice presidential candidate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, participate in a debate at the CBS Broadcast Center on October 1, 2024 in New York City. This is expected to be the only vice presidential debate of the 2024 general election. (Photo by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)
US Senator and Republican vice presidential candidate J.D. Vance (L) and Minnesota Governor and Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Walz participate in the Vice Presidential debate hosted by CBS News at the CBS Broadcast Center in New York City on October 1, 2024. (Photo by Charly TRIBALLEAU / AFP) (Photo by CHARLY TRIBALLEAU/AFP via Getty Images)
CBS News anchors Norah O’Donnell (L) and Margaret Brennan moderate the debate between Republican vice presidential candidate, Sen. JD Vance (R-OH) and Democratic vice presidential candidate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz at the CBS Broadcast Center on October 1, 2024 in New York City. in a debate at the CBS Broadcast Center on October 1, 2024 in New York City. This is expected to be the only vice presidential debate of the 2024 general election. (Photo by Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images)
US Senator and Republican vice presidential candidate J.D. Vance speaks during the Vice Presidential debate with Minnesota Governor and Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Walz, hosted by CBS News at the CBS Broadcast Center in New York City on October 1, 2024. (Photo by ANGELA WEISS / AFP) (Photo by ANGELA WEISS/AFP via Getty Images)
Minnesota Governor and Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Walz speaks during the Vice Presidential debate with US Senator and Republican vice presidential candidate J.D. Vance, hosted by CBS News at the CBS Broadcast Center in New York City on October 1, 2024. (Photo by ANGELA WEISS / AFP) (Photo by ANGELA WEISS/AFP via Getty Images)
US Senator and Republican vice presidential candidate J.D. Vance (L) and Minnesota Governor and Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Walz participate in the Vice Presidential debate hosted by CBS News at the CBS Broadcast Center in New York City on October 1, 2024. (Photo by ANGELA WEISS / AFP) (Photo by ANGELA WEISS/AFP via Getty Images)
People watch as Republican vice presidential candidate U.S. Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH) and Democratic vice presidential nominee Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz appear together during the CBS News Vice Presidential Debate on October 01, 2024 in Kendall, Florida. The Miami-Dade Hispanic Caucus VP Debate Watch Party was held at the Sports Grill Kendall restaurant. The two candidates are meeting Tuesday for the first and likely only vice presidential debate before the general election. (Photo by Joe Raedle/Getty Images)
A screen displays the CBS vice presidential debate between US Senator and Republican vice presidential candidate J.D. Vance and Minnesota Governor and Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Walz in Times Square in New York on October 1, 2024. (Photo by Kena Betancur / AFP) (Photo by KENA BETANCUR/AFP via Getty Images)
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Republican vice presidential candidate, Sen. JD Vance (R-OH), and Democratic vice presidential candidate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, greet each other ahead of a debate at the CBS Broadcast Center on October 1, 2024 in New York City. This is expected to be the only vice presidential debate of the 2024 general election. (Photo by Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images)
“Sometimes it just is the guns. It’s just the guns.”
— Walz, discussing the high rate of gun violence in the United States compared to other rich nations. Walz cautioned against using mental illness as a “scapegoat” for the country’s high levels of gun violence rather than “find solutions on this that protect the Second Amendment, protect our children, that settlement.”
“My shotgun was in my car so I could pheasant hunt after football practice.”
– Walz, noting that he is a longtime gunowner and the need to address firearm deaths by suicide and violent crime.
“I want us as a Republican Party to be pro-family in the fullest sense of the word.”
— Vance, responding to how Republicans should navigate potentially unpopular and dangerous realities that face women surrounding pregnancy. Vance, who opposes abortion, said Republicans “have got to do so much better of a job at earning the American people’s trust back on this issue, where they, frankly, just don’t trust us.”
“Donald Trump put this all into motion.”
— Walz, criticizing Trump’s record on abortion. Walz said Trump “bragged” about appointing three Supreme Court justices who would go on to join a majority ruling that overturned the abortion protections in Roe v. Wade. “52 years of personal autonomy and then he tells us ‘Oh, send it to the states,’” Walz said of Trump.
“A president’s words matter.”
— Walz, discussing the riot at the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021. Walz said Trump’s rhetoric and refusal to concede defeat in the 2020 presidential election led to the riot at the U.S. Capitol and deep ensuing divisions across politics. “All of us say there’s no place for this,” Walz said.
“My own belief is that we should fight about those issues, debate those issues peacefully in the public square.”
— Vance, when asked whether Trump won the 2020 presidential election and if he would support efforts to contest the election which Trump carried out that have since been deemed illegal or unconstitutional. “First of all, I think that we’re focused on the future,” Vance said. “But what President Trump has said is that there were problems in 2020, and my own belief is that we should fight about those issues, debate those issues peacefully in the public square.”
WASHINGTON — Vice Presidential hopefuls Tim Walz and JD Vance squared off Tuesday night in what may be the last debate of the 2024 presidential campaign. It was the first encounter between Minnesota’s Democratic governor and Ohio’s Republican senator, following last month’s debate between the tops of their tickets, Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump.
No more debates are on the political calendar before Election Day. Tuesday’s confrontation came as the global stakes of the contest rose again as Iran fired missiles at Israel. The vice presidential hopefuls sparred over the violence in the Middle East, climate change and immigration. Here are some takeaways from Tuesday’s debate.
Republican vice presidential candidate, Sen. JD Vance (R-OH), and Democratic vice presidential candidate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, greet each other ahead of a debate at the CBS Broadcast Center on October 1, 2024 in New York City. This is expected to be the only vice presidential debate of the 2024 general election. (Photo by Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images)
US Senator and Republican vice presidential candidate J.D. Vance (C) and Minnesota Governor and Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Walz (R) participate in the Vice Presidential debate hosted by CBS News at the CBS Broadcast Center in New York City on October 1, 2024. (Photo by ANGELA WEISS / AFP) (Photo by ANGELA WEISS/AFP via Getty Images)
Republican vice presidential candidate, Sen. JD Vance (R-OH), and Democratic vice presidential candidate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, participate in a debate at the CBS Broadcast Center on October 1, 2024 in New York City. This is expected to be the only vice presidential debate of the 2024 general election. (Photo by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)
US Senator and Republican vice presidential candidate J.D. Vance (L) and Minnesota Governor and Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Walz participate in the Vice Presidential debate hosted by CBS News at the CBS Broadcast Center in New York City on October 1, 2024. (Photo by Charly TRIBALLEAU / AFP) (Photo by CHARLY TRIBALLEAU/AFP via Getty Images)
CBS News anchors Norah O’Donnell (L) and Margaret Brennan moderate the debate between Republican vice presidential candidate, Sen. JD Vance (R-OH) and Democratic vice presidential candidate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz at the CBS Broadcast Center on October 1, 2024 in New York City. in a debate at the CBS Broadcast Center on October 1, 2024 in New York City. This is expected to be the only vice presidential debate of the 2024 general election. (Photo by Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images)
US Senator and Republican vice presidential candidate J.D. Vance speaks during the Vice Presidential debate with Minnesota Governor and Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Walz, hosted by CBS News at the CBS Broadcast Center in New York City on October 1, 2024. (Photo by ANGELA WEISS / AFP) (Photo by ANGELA WEISS/AFP via Getty Images)
Minnesota Governor and Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Walz speaks during the Vice Presidential debate with US Senator and Republican vice presidential candidate J.D. Vance, hosted by CBS News at the CBS Broadcast Center in New York City on October 1, 2024. (Photo by ANGELA WEISS / AFP) (Photo by ANGELA WEISS/AFP via Getty Images)
US Senator and Republican vice presidential candidate J.D. Vance (L) and Minnesota Governor and Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Walz participate in the Vice Presidential debate hosted by CBS News at the CBS Broadcast Center in New York City on October 1, 2024. (Photo by ANGELA WEISS / AFP) (Photo by ANGELA WEISS/AFP via Getty Images)
People watch as Republican vice presidential candidate U.S. Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH) and Democratic vice presidential nominee Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz appear together during the CBS News Vice Presidential Debate on October 01, 2024 in Kendall, Florida. The Miami-Dade Hispanic Caucus VP Debate Watch Party was held at the Sports Grill Kendall restaurant. The two candidates are meeting Tuesday for the first and likely only vice presidential debate before the general election. (Photo by Joe Raedle/Getty Images)
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Republican vice presidential candidate, Sen. JD Vance (R-OH), and Democratic vice presidential candidate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, greet each other ahead of a debate at the CBS Broadcast Center on October 1, 2024 in New York City. This is expected to be the only vice presidential debate of the 2024 general election. (Photo by Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images)
With Mideast in turmoil, Walz promises ‘steady leadership” and Vance offers ’peace through strength’
Iran’s ballistic missile attack on Israel on Tuesday elicited a contrast between the Democratic and Republican tickets on foreign policy: Walz promised “steady leadership” under Harris while Vance pledged a return to “peace through strength” if Trump is returned to the White House.
The differing visions of what American leadership should look like overshadowed the sharp policy differences between the two tickets.
More Americans lean Republican than Democrat. What that means for the presidential election is uncertain.
The Iranian threat to the region and U.S. interests around the world opened the debate, with Walz pivoting the topic to criticism of Trump.
“What’s fundamental here is that steady leadership is going to matter,” Walz said, then referenced the “nearly 80-year-old Donald Trump talking about crowd sizes” and responding to global crises by tweet.
Vance, for his part, promised a return to “effective deterrence” under Trump against Iran, brushing back on Walz’s criticism of Trump by attacking Harris and her role in the Biden administration.
“Who has been the vice president for the last three and a half years and the answer is your running mate, not mine,” he said. He pointedly noted that the Hamas attacks on Israel on Oct. 7, 2023, happened “during the administration of Kamala Harris.”
Vance and Walz punch up rather than at each other
Vance and Walz trained the bulk of their attacks not on their on-stage rival, but on the running mates who weren’t in the room.
Both vice presidential nominees sought to convey a genial mien as they lobbed criticism at Harris and Trump, respectively.
It was a reflection of the fact that most voters don’t cast a ballot based on the vice president, and on a vice presidential nominee’s historic role in serving as the attack dog for their running mates.
Walz pointedly attacked Trump for failing to meet his pledge of building a physical barrier across the entire U.S.-Mexico border at the country’s southern neighbor’s expense.
“Less than 2% of that wall got built and Mexico didn’t pay a dime,” Walz said.
Underscoring the focus on the top of the ticket, during a back-and-forth about immigration, Vance said to his opponent: “I think that you want to solve this problem, but I don’t think that Kamala Harris does.”
Both candidates put a domestic spin on climate change
In the wake of the devastation of Hurricane Helene, Vance took a question about climate change and gave an answer about jobs and manufacturing, taking a detour around Trump’s past claims that global warming is a “hoax.”
Vance contended that the best way to fight climate change was to move more manufacturing to the United States, because the country has the world’s cleanest energy economy. It was a distinctly domestic spin on a global crisis, especially after Trump pulled the U.S. out of the international Paris climate accords during his administration.
Walz also kept the climate change focus domestic, touting the Biden administration’s renewable energy investments as well as record levels of oil and natural gas production. “You can see us becoming an energy superpower in the future,” Walz said.
It was a decidedly optimistic take on a pervasive and grim global problem.
Walz, Vance each blame opposing presidential candidate for immigration stalemate
The two running mates agreed that the number of migrants in the U.S. illegally is a problem. But each laid the blame on the opposing presidential nominee.
Vance echoed Trump by repeatedly calling Harris the “border czar” and suggested that she, as vice president, single-handedly rolled back the immigration restrictions Trump had imposed as president. The result, in Vance’s telling, is an unchecked flow of fentanyl, strain on state and local resources and increased housing prices around the country.
Harris was never asked to be the “border czar” and she was never specifically given the responsibility for security on the border. She was tasked by Biden in March 2021 with tackling the “root causes” of migration from the Central American countries of Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador and pushing leaders there and in Mexico to enforce immigration laws. Harris was not empowered to set U.S. immigration policy — only the president can sign executive orders and Harris was not empowered as Biden’s proxy in negotiations with Congress on immigration law.
Walz advanced Democrats’ arguments that Trump single-handedly killed a bipartisan Senate deal to tighten border security and boost the processing system for immigrants and asylum seekers. Republicans backed off the deal, Walz noted, only after Trump said it wasn’t good enough.
Liberty Classical Academy officials have filed suit in U.S. District Court against May Township in their bid to begin construction of the school’s planned expansion as soon as possible.
Officials from the Hugo school filed a demand for a jury trial in the civil case, claiming that May Township officials’ decision to enact a moratorium on “schools and facilities associated with schools” was arbitrary.
The May Town Board voted in August to deny Liberty Classical Academy’s request for a conditional-use permit for a sewage treatment system and stormwater management facilities that are proposed to be located on school property in the township.
The private Christian academy, which serves students pre-K through 12th grade, moved part of its lower-school programming two years ago to the former Withrow Elementary School building in neighboring Hugo. School officials also bought the neighboring 88-acre Zahler farm, which is located in Hugo and May Township.
Liberty officials want to build an approximately 33,500-square-foot building addition to the existing school and associated parking on the Withrow property. The Hugo City Council in June approved the expansion plans, which will effectively double the size of the school building.
But May Township officials, in a 2-0 vote, denied the academy’s CUP request “on the basis that it is inconsistent with the terms of a recently passed interim ordinance establishing a moratorium around non-residential, commercial and institutional type uses in the rural residential district,” Town Board Chairman John Pazlar said at the time.
The vote was 2-0 because town board supervisor Don Rolf abstained. Rolf is an employee of Pope Design Group, the architecture firm assisting the school with the building plans.
Liberty officials claim in the complaint that township officials waited “until seven days before (they were) required to vote on the school’s conditional-use permit, even though the Town of May had been aware of (school’s) plan for over two years,” the complaint states.
Liberty officials also allege in the complaint that: the township’s “denial of the school’s CUP application was illegal because the moratorium is invalid,” the township violated the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act, which protects faith organizations from zoning laws that substantially burden religious exercise, and the township violated the First Amendment by denying the school’s “community’s rights to speech and assembly because it prevents (Liberty) from developing its independent, permanent location notwithstanding the CUP’s application with Town of May’s Code.”
Rebekah Hagstrom, the academy’s headmaster and founder, said Tuesday that she could not comment on the merits of the case.
“The goal of the litigation is to enforce Liberty Classical Academy’s property rights against an arbitrary moratorium,” she said. “This litigation is aimed at correcting procedures, not quarreling with the people of May Township. We look forward to working with the Town of May to resolve the issue quickly.”
Pazlar said the township recently received Liberty Classical Academy’s formal complaint filing, and town staff are in the process of reviewing it “with the intent of responding to this issue in a timely and comprehensive manner.”
Given the pending litigation, he said he could not comment further.
Neighbors who live in the area told the Pioneer Press in July that they were worried about the school’s plans for future expansion, citing concerns about an increase in traffic and its proposed subsurface sewage treatment system.
Jim Dropps, who lives just west of the site, said Tuesday that the project does not meet May Township’s rural-residential zoning requirements.
“That’s the primary issue,” he said. “Institutional uses are not allowed, and any CUP has to ‘ensure that the rural residential character of the community is preserved, by limiting the (conditional) uses to a secondary role.’”
“The fact that the project doesn’t meet these requirements was the basis for the moratorium,” Dropps added. “Liberty’s attempt to make this about religion or the First Amendment distracts from the fact that schools and other institutional uses are not allowed in the rural-residential zoning districts’s comprehensive plan.”
Timberwolves coach Chris Finch was asked who has impressed him with their work in the team’s practice facility in the weeks leading up to the start of training camp. He listed both rookies – Rob Dillingham and Terrence Shannon Jr. Their progression is natural as they adjust to the speed and physicality of the pro game.
Minnesota Timberwolves forward Josh Minott (8) poses for a photo during the NBA basketball team’s media day, Monday, Sept. 30, 2024, in Minneapolis. (AP Photo/Abbie Parr)
Then he brought up a wing heading into Year 3.
“Josh Minott has had an incredible summer,” Finch said. “He has probably been one of our best players in the last six weeks here in the gym, watching us play.”
Minott has been the source of intrigue for Wolves fans since he was selected with a second-round pick in 2022. Then an athletic, wiry specimen with little playing time in his freshman year at Memphis, Minott was the unknown with endless potential.
He has seen little of the NBA floor in two years – a product largely of Minnesota’s strong roster. But there also never seemed to be a reason to force him into action. Minott’s jump shot was inconsistent, at best. And defensively he wasn’t far enough along to trust with any type of legitimate minutes.
This summer, Minott said he started to become a smarter player. He simplified thoughts on the floor for himself. He understood what worked for him and what didn’t. Reads became easier to execute.
And that jumper, specifically, has grown by leaps and bounds. After Tuesday’s practice, not only was Minott drilling every 3-point attempt, the ball was hardly touching the twine. The 21 year old said this is the most confident he has ever felt in his shot.
“I feel like anytime the ball leaves my hands from beyond the arc, it’s going in,” he said.
That leap in confidence, he noted, has come from his mentality. Minott was crippling himself in the first two years of his career with a fear of failure. The thought of “what if I miss?” crept into his mind as he’d rise up for a shot. Avoidance of mistakes was a top priority during his play.
“Coming into the league, I was scared of messing up, scared of making mistakes,” Minott said. “I wanted to be the perfect player. I wanted to impress the coach and all this other stuff.”
The contract Minott inked after he was drafted didn’t feature a guaranteed third year. Even that weighed heavily on him last season. That’s no way to compete.
“Not only was that not healthy mentally, but it wasn’t even helping me to stress like that,” Minott said.
That was a realization made late last season. That’s when his personal shift started to occur. Minott relaxed – not in terms of work habits. He remains on his personal grind. But, mentally, he doesn’t live in fear of falling short. He competes to win, not worried about numbers. Roughly 5,000 players have ever played in the NBA. He now savors the fact that he’s one of them.
“Just stop putting so much stress on myself, and not only is it healthier for my mental,” he said, “but I’m actually getting better at the game of basketball by not caring so much in terms of stressing.”
Because you have to fail to learn and grow. He has done plenty of both over the past few months, which has reignited the intrigue for his potential. Does that mean playing time is coming this season? Frankly, likely not unless an injury occurs. Minnesota is suddenly stacked at the wing position. Minutes are currently at a premium.
But that’s none of Minott’s concern.
“That’s an external situation. I don’t control that,” he said. “That’s for the front office and coaching staff to decide. All I can control is me, what I do, and I’m just going to go out there and try to be the best player I can be every day.”
It would likely be different if Minott played for a bad team. He doesn’t see the floor because he’s rostered by a championship contender. He understands as much.
“I’ve kind of seen it with players around the league, especially in my draft class, going to the opposite end of the winning spectrum and seeing how that works,” Minott said. “Honestly, I’m happy where my feet are. Opportunity is something everybody in this room knows is a little scarce here just with the culture we have and everything. I just embrace the work, embrace the G-League, did my time, so to speak.
“Overall, it’s just been a learning experience that I probably wouldn’t find on the other team that wasn’t winning as much. Yes, I might be ‘hooping’ and going out and playing, but I don’t really know the value of what I’d be learning. We just did something really special last year, went to the conference finals, and I got to be a part of that winning culture and see what it took. I feel like that’s more valuable than going 20-62.”