Experts explain what the law says about killing survivors of a boat strike

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By BEN FINLEY and KONSTANTIN TOROPIN

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. military would have committed a crime if it killed the survivors of an attack on an alleged drug boat, legal experts say.

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It doesn’t matter whether the U.S. is in “armed conflict” with drug cartels as the Trump administration asserts. Such a fatal second strike would have violated peacetime laws and those governing armed conflict, the experts say.

“I can’t imagine anyone, no matter what the circumstance, believing it is appropriate to kill people who are clinging to a boat in the water,” said Michael Schmitt, a former Air Force lawyer and professor emeritus at the U.S. Naval War College. “That is clearly unlawful.”

The White House confirmed Monday that a second strike was conducted in September against a vessel accused of trafficking drugs off the coast of Venezuela and insisted it was done “in self-defense” and in accordance with the laws of armed conflict.

A news report about that attack spawned a new level of scrutiny from lawmakers and added to a growing debate about whether service members can refuse to follow illegal orders, which some Democratic lawmakers recently encouraged.

Here’s what to know about the strikes and laws of armed conflict:

What set off the debate

The Washington Post reported last week that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth issued a spoken directive to “kill everybody” on a boat targeted on Sept. 2, the first vessel hit in what the Trump administration calls a counterdrug campaign that has grown to over 20 known strikes and more than 80 dead.

Two men survived that first attack, which killed nine others, and were clinging to the wreckage, the newspaper reported. The commander in charge, Adm. Frank Bradley, ordered a second strike to comply with Hegseth’s instructions, killing the two men, the Post reported.

Hegseth called it “fake news” on social media, saying the boat strikes are “in compliance with the law of armed conflict — and approved by the best military and civilian lawyers, up and down the chain of command.”

President Donald Trump said Sunday that the administration “will look into” it but added that “I wouldn’t have wanted that — not a second strike.” He noted that Hegseth told him “he did not order the death of those two men.”

White House spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt told reporters Monday that Bradley had ordered the second strike and “was well within his authority to do so.” She denied that Hegseth said to leave no survivors.

The administration has justified the attacks as a necessary escalation to stem the flow of drugs into the United States and asserted the U.S. is engaged in an “armed conflict” with drug cartels, similar to the war against al-Qaida following the Sept. 11 attacks.

What the law allows during armed conflict

A second strike killing survivors would have been illegal under any circumstance, armed conflict or not, Schmitt said.

He said the U.S. is not in a legitimate armed conflict with drug cartels, which would have to be committing high levels of violence against the country, not just trafficking drugs that kill Americans.

Even if it was, “it has been clear for well over a century that you may not declare what’s called ‘no quarter’ — take no survivors, kill everyone,” Schmitt said.

Whether an armed conflict is taking place likely would not be settled by an international body like the International Criminal Court, to which the U.S. is not a party, said Matthew Waxman, a Columbia University law professor who was a national security official in the George W. Bush administration.

The U.S., however, could face blowback from allies, which may decline to share information for military operations that are illegal under their own laws or international law, said Waxman, who served in the State and Defense departments and on the National Security Council under Bush.

America’s armed conflict against al-Qaida received support from the U.N. Security Council, NATO and U.S. allies, he said.

The legal threat posed to US military personnel

If the U.S. is not in an armed conflict, that means it violated international human rights law, which governs how countries treat individuals, Schmitt said.

“You can only use lethal force in circumstances where there is an imminent threat,” Schmitt said. “And that wasn’t the case.”

Brian Finucane, a senior adviser with the International Crisis Group and a former State Department lawyer, agreed that the U.S. is not in an armed conflict with drug cartels.

“The term for a premeditated killing outside of armed conflict is murder,” Finucane said, adding that U.S. military personnel could be prosecuted in American courts.

“Murder on the high seas is a crime,” he said. “Conspiracy to commit murder outside of the United States is a crime. And under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, Article 118 makes murder an offense.”

The Pentagon’s own manual on the laws of war describes a scenario similar to the Sept. 2 boat strike when discussing when service members should refuse to comply with unlawful orders.

“For example,” the manual says, “orders to fire upon the shipwrecked would be clearly illegal.”

What Congress has said about what comes next

Leaders of the Armed Services committees in both the House and Senate have opened investigations.

Republican Sen. Roger Wicker of Mississippi, chairman of the Senate’s committee, and its top Democrat, Rhode Island Sen. Jack Reed, said the committee “will be conducting vigorous oversight to determine the facts related to these circumstances.”

Concern about the second strike comes after a group of Democratic lawmakers — all veterans of the armed services and intelligence community — released a video calling on U.S. military members to defy “illegal orders.”

Among them was Sen. Mark Kelly, an Arizona Democrat and former Navy fighter pilot who has questioned the use of the military to attack the alleged drug boats. The Pentagon says it’s investigating Kelly over possible breaches of military law tied to the video.

Kelly said Monday that “if what seems to have happened, actually happened, I’m really concerned about our service members.”

Senate Majority Leader John Thune has defended the boat strikes as stopping the flow of narcotics into the U.S. and said to wait for the outcome of the reviews.

“Obviously, if there was a direction to take a second shot and kill people, that’s a violation of an ethical, moral or legal code. We need to get to the bottom of it,” said Sen. Thom Tillis, a North Carolina Republican.

Associated Press writers Stephen Groves, Lisa Mascaro and Joey Cappelletti contributed to this report.

Masked man who ‘hunted’ and shot dead St. Paul man sentenced to 12 years in prison

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A St. Paul man was sentenced to more than 12 years in prison in connection with the November 2024 murder of a 24-year-old man who authorities said was shot dead after being followed and “hunted.”

Jehovah M. Nelson, 20, was sentenced Tuesday under terms of a plea agreement. He was ordered to submit a DNA sample as part of the deal. He and another man, Kenneth E. Terry, who was 18 at the time, were charged in connection with the shooting death.

Jehovah M. Nelson (Courtesy of the Ramsey County Sheriff’s Office)

Dejaun Hemphill, 24, was with two cousins when he was shot near University Avenue and Rice Street on Nov. 5, 2024. Authorities said he and his cousins were being followed by two men, but were unaware they were being “hunted.”

A woman who was previously in a relationship with Terry reported that she had been hanging out with one of Hemphill’s cousins’ younger brothers, which was making Terry jealous. She said Terry had been bragging about Hemphill’s murder on social media, according to a criminal complaint.

Hemphill died at the hospital on Nov. 15.

Surveillance video showed the shooter was wearing a white Michael Myers mask — the killer character in the “Halloween” movies who wears a mask. A similar mask was later found in a vehicle associated with the two men, the complaint said.

The Ramsey County Attorney’s Office charged Nelson with second-degree murder and Terry with aiding and abetting second-degree murder. Nelson was also charged with two counts of attempted murder of Hemphill’s cousins who were with him.

Nelson pleaded guilty to second degree murder without intent; the other charges were dismissed.

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Why did the 2015 San Bernardino mass shooting happen?

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The annual general education meeting started off normally.

In a rented conference room, San Bernardino County Division of Environmental Health Services employees ate from a breakfast buffet and competed for gift cards in a trivia game. Supervisors gave out awards and played instructional videos.

The meeting was “mandatory fun,” one person later told the FBI.

As staff gathered in front of a Christmas tree for group photos, one employee slipped outside. When he returned, he and his wife wore masks and carried semiautomatic weapons. They opened fire, murdering 14 people, including 13 of his coworkers, and wounding 22 more. The couple died in a shootout with police hours later.

The Dec. 2, 2015 mass shooting at the Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino was the 13th deadliest in American history.

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In the decade since, a clearer picture of what led to the shooting has taken shape. Public records and interviews with those most directly affected suggest the San Bernardino mass shooting was both a terrorist act and a workplace shooting.

The attack was committed by a man who had grown up in an abusive home, was radicalized by violent online content, and who had access to high-powered weaponry. Family members of victims say workplace disputes that should have raised red flags were reported to the county.

“There’s always warning signs,” said Ryan Reyes. His partner, Daniel Kaufman, was killed in the attack.

‘Rage and despair’

Syed Rizwan Farook, the Environmental Health Services employee who would later open fire on his coworkers, was the son of Pakistani immigrants, born in Chicago but raised in Riverside.

It does not appear that it was a happy home.

Farook’s father was an alcoholic with bipolar disorder who refused to take prescribed medication, according to his mother.

A DMV photo shows Syed Rizwan Farook, who with his wife carried out a mass shooting at the Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino on Dec. 2, 2015. (Courtesy of California Department of Motor Vehicles)

“He is always mad. Drinking all day. Screaming on me, shouting at my kids for no reason,” Rafia Farook wrote in a 2006 request for a restraining order. “That day he tried to hit me. I do not know exactly why he was mad.”

Her children had to interpose themselves between their parents to stop their mother from being attacked, Rafia Farook wrote. Her husband would throw things, including dishes. He’d scream at the family and regularly threaten to kill himself. At least once, in February 2008, he was held in a county hospital for a 72-hour observation period, court documents show.

The couple divorced in early 2015.

According to the online mass shootings database The Violence Project, at least 70% of mass shooters have experienced significant childhood trauma.

“Parental suicide is common, as is physical abuse, sexual abuse, domestic violence in the home, and severe bullying by classmates,” the founders of The Violence Project, Jillian Peterson and James Densley, write in their 2021 book, “The Violence Project: How to Stop a Mass Shooting Epidemic.”

“This early exposure to violence and unaddressed trauma feeds the perpetrator’s rage and despair later in life,” the pair write. “Mental health concerns such as depression, anxiety, and paranoia commonly develop during adolescence and are rarely identified or treated.”

Syed Farook, a devout Muslim, fantasized about committing violence of his own, inspired by terrorist groups that claimed they fought on behalf of Islam. He eventually shared those fantasies with his neighbor, Enrique Marquez Jr., according to a 37-page criminal complaint filed by the FBI against Marquez in federal court two weeks after the attack.

Marquez had moved in next door to Farook’s family in 2004. Marquez, 14 at the time, hung out with Farook, then 18, while the older teen worked on cars in his driveway.

“Shortly thereafter, Farook introduced Marquez to radical Islamic ideology, which included expressing disdain toward Muslims in the U.S. military that killed other Muslims, and discussing the extremist views of the now-deceased imam and Islamic lecturer” Anwar al-Awlaki, the FBI’s complaint reads in part.

Farook and Marquez also read Inspire, the official online magazine of terrorist group al-Qaida, according to the complaint. The summer 2010 edition included instructions on how to build radio-controlled pipe bombs and called on readers to destroy the United States.

In 2011, the neighbors talked about attacks “designed to maximize the number of casualties,” according to the FBI complaint.

Maybe they could throw pipe bombs into the library or the cafeteria at Riverside City College.

Or maybe they could bomb the 91 Freeway during rush hour along a stretch near Corona that had few exits people could use to escape. Then Farook would move through the stopped cars, shooting trapped motorists, while Marquez shot first responders.

In November 2011 and February 2012, Marquez bought two AR-15 semiautomatic rifles. The day after the Inland Regional Center attack, he told a 911 dispatcher the guns had been used in the shooting in San Bernardino. Marquez later told the FBI the firearms were specifically bought to attack Riverside City College or the 91 Freeway. Separately, Farook bought two semiautomatic handguns.

In November 2012, the FBI arrested four Inland Empire men who had been plotting to join the Taliban and al-Qaida and kill or kidnap Americans overseas. Like Farook and Marquez, they had trained at Los Angeles-area paintball and gun ranges.

According to the criminal complaint against Marquez, the arrests spooked him. He pulled away from Farook and out of the plans to commit violence.

A San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department photo shows the weapons police say were used in the mass shooting in San Bernardino on Dec. 2, 2015. (Courtesy of San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department)

A new partner

But Farook seemed undeterred.

He began looking for a wife online. He matched with Tashfeen Malik, who was studying at a religious school in Pakistan.

The pair were “radicalized before they ever started courting or dating online,” then-FBI director James Comey told the Senate Judiciary Committee a week after the attack. “As early as 2013, they were speaking about jihad and martyrdom before they became engaged.”

After connecting via Skype, Farook and Malik finally met in person in October 2013, when he was on pilgrimage in Saudi Arabia. They got engaged the same day. In July 2014, Malik moved to the U.S. The couple later moved into a Redlands townhouse.

The pair had a baby girl six months before the mass shooting. They left her with Rafia on the morning of Dec. 2. They told the girl’s grandmother they had a doctor’s appointment. (Farook’s sister, Saira Khan, sought to adopt her niece after the shooting. The Riverside County Department of Public Social Services would not disclose where the child was placed, citing California’s confidentiality laws surrounding adoption.)

In a photo from U.S. Customs and Border Protection, Tashfeen Malik, left, and Syed Rizwan Farook move through customs at O’Hare International Airport in Chicago on July 27, 2014. Malik and Farook, the assailants in the deadly attack in San Bernardino, Calif., that killed 14 people last week, had been radicalized for a long time and had been practicing their aim at a target range just days before their murder spree, according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation. (Courtesy of U.S. Customs and Border Protection)

Malik practiced an extremely conservative form of Islam.

“(Redacted) asked to see a picture of his wife but Syed refused, explaining that she wears a religious head covering,” one of Farook’s coworkers said in an FBI interview. “Syed told (redacted) that he was still living with his family in Riverside. He explained that things were tense in the house, as his parents were not into the fact that his wife wore her head dressing ‘24/7,’ even in the house. Despite that, Syed said he was happy.”

Former San Bernardino Police Chief Jarrod Burguan told ABC News in 2016 that Malik had posted online that she did not believe Muslims should be required to participate in non-Muslim holiday events.

The environmental health services’ 2015 general education meeting was officially a training event, not a Christmas party. Employees told the FBI that past meetings had featured fall themes, with scarecrows and hay bales. And although past meetings had been mandatory, the 2015 meeting was not. But not all employees knew about the change, according to FBI interviews.

On the morning of the attack, as Farook and Malik drove to the Inland Regional Center, Malik searched social media for materials related to the terrorist group ISIS, according to the criminal complaint against Marquez.

As the couple fled after, she pledged the couple’s allegiance to ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi in a Facebook post.

Farook’s and Malik’s accounts were deleted by Facebook soon after.

Three days after the attack, ISIS called the pair “supporters” of the group in a radio broadcast.

In the end, the FBI ruled that Farook and Malik were homegrown terrorists.

“As of today, we do not see any indications of a foreign-directed terrorist act,” David Bowdich, Assistant Director in Charge of the FBI’s Los Angeles field office, said at a January 2016 news conference. Instead, the couple appeared to have been self-radicalized by online materials, like Inspire magazine and Anwar al-Awlaki’s speeches.

‘Should have known’

ISIS has urged the group’s followers to “direct your actions at the easy targets before the difficult, the civilian targets before the military, and the religious targets such as synagogues and churches before anything else,” as a spokesman said in a January 2024 speech.

But Farook and Malik didn’t choose a target with obvious political or religious significance. They targeted Farook’s coworkers.

Workplace shootings are the most common type of mass shooting. More than 29% of mass shootings in the Violence Project database are classified that way. That includes the attack at the Inland Regional Center, which the database also classifies as terrorism.

Farook worked as a health inspector for the environmental health services division for five years.

“Nothing at work gave (redacted) the impression that ‘this,’ meaning the shooting at the (Dec. 2 general education meeting), could happen,” an employee told the FBI in interviews after the attack. “Farook was a ‘typical’ employee; he did not stand out in any way.”

Farook’s coworkers never met Malik. But they threw a baby shower for the couple’s daughter months before the shooting.

Still, there were signs of trouble at work.

“Approximately three months ago, Farook’s demeanor changed,” a coworker told the FBI a week after the attack. Other interviewees made similar remarks. “He showed ‘no reaction at all’ when (redacted) greeted him. When (redacted) said ‘good morning’ or ‘hello’ to Farook, Farook would look at (redacted) but not respond in any way or acknowledge the greeting. (Redacted) would wonder to himself ‘did he hear me or what?’”

Farook also reportedly had a workplace conflict with at least one coworker.

“County knew that its employee Syed had a heated and volatile argument with a co-worker over the Islamic religion and faith,” an August 2017 claim filed on behalf of the relatives of three employees killed in the attack reads in part. “County knew or should have known that its employee Syed was predisposed to commit acts of violence and thus maintained a hostile work environment.”

Tina Meins, daughter of San Bernardino mass shooting victim Damian Meins, listens as her mother, Trenna Meins recalls the days before the Dec 2 shooting in San Bernardino, at Andulka Park in Riverside on Monday, Nov. 3, 2025. (Photo by Terry Pierson, The Press-Enterprise/SCNG)

Trenna Meins is the widow of Damian Meins, one of Farook’s coworkers who was killed at the Inland Regional Center.

In fall 2015, Trenna Meins was the principal of Sacred Heart Parish School in Rancho Cucamonga.

According to the county Department of Public Health, another of Farook’s coworkers, Nicholas Thalasinos, inspected the school’s kitchen on Oct. 8, 2015, less than two months before the San Bernardino attack.

“In our conversation about the kitchen, (Thalasinos) brought up the terrorist attack on the train in Paris,” Trenna Meins said, referring to the Aug. 21, 2015 shooting of four people on a train traveling from Amsterdam to Paris. Passengers subdued the gunman, who was linked to ISIS.

“And (Thalasinos) told me that he had a guy in his office, Farook, that defended the action of the terrorist,” Meins said. “So those two had an argument.”

Before his death in the attack, Thalasinos had a fiery online presence. Calling himself “ProTzionist” on his two Facebook accounts, he attacked those he saw as antisemites or enemies of Israel.

“The LIBERAL FASCISTS running America and Europe have this DELUSION that if they SACRIFICE INNOCENT JEWS on the PAGAN ALTER to the ADVERSARY and it’s Antisemetic CULT ISIS et al – the CULT will SPARE the LIBERALS,” he posted on his Michael Thalasinos account on Nov. 14, 2015.

Thalasinos’ widow declined to be interviewed for this story. His brother was one of the plaintiffs in the August 2017 claim against the county.

A week or so after meeting Thalasinos, Meins said, her husband mentioned Farook to her.

“He said he thought somebody got fired,” she said.

According to Meins, her husband told her Farook was escorted out of the office and didn’t return the next day.

“And then one day, I can’t tell you how long, but Damian said (Farook) was back. I want to say he was gone three days,” Meins said. “(Damian) talked a bit about this conflict that Farook had in the office with people.”

Rafia Farook, mother of 2015 San Bernardino shooter Syed Rizwan Farook, leaves U.S. District Court in Riverside on Feb. 11, 2021, after her sentencing for destroying evidence. (File photo by Watchara Phomicinda, The Press-Enterprise/SCNG)

After the shooting, Farook’s mother, Rafia, shredded attack plans apparently drawn up by Farook and Tashfeen. The plans included a hand-drawn map of the Inland Regional Center conference room noting where the managers would be sitting. Witnesses told the FBI that Farook and Tashfeen appeared to be shooting at the managers’ table on the far side of the conference room. In February 2021, Rafia was sentenced to six months of house arrest and three years of probation after pleading guilty to a single charge of destroying evidence.

According to Reyes, whose partner Kaufman worked at the Inland Regional Center and was the only non-county employee killed in the attack, FBI agents told victims’ families that religious arguments involving Farook were reported to the county’s human resources department.

“I will never forgive the county for not doing their (part) and responding as they should have as far as preventing” the attack, Reyes said.

Former San Bernardino County Supervisor Janice Rutherford tears up Friday, Oct. 3, 2025, while discussing the Dec. 2, 2015, mass shooting during an interview in Rancho Cucamonga. (Photo by Terry Pierson, The Press-Enterprise/SCNG)

Janice Rutherford, who was on the San Bernardino County Board of Supervisors at the time of the attack, accepts the anger some have toward the county.

She recalled advice that county leadership got from Rudy Guiliani, who was mayor of New York City during the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. “He said ‘the anger has to have some place to go,’” Rutherford said. “Anger is part of the grief response and it is a rational response to the tragedy that has occurred. But the terrorist is dead, the terrorists are dead. The organization or cause to which they pledged themselves is this abstract, distant, obscure (thing) you can only be angry at in a metaphysical sense.”

But county government is still there.

“‘The victims and the families have to have someone to be angry with and they’re going to be angry at the county,’” she said, quoting Guiliani. County officials decided to accept that anger. “We would be that target. We will not fight back. We will not criticize. We will not complain,” Rutherford said. “We will just do it. We will just take it.”

According to the Meins family, victims’ families have tried for years to get access to Farook’s personnel file. San Bernardino County has refused to release the file, citing Farook’s privacy rights.

On Nov. 18, the county released Farook’s performance reviews in response to a California Public Records Act request from the Southern California News Group. According to the county, there were no records in his file related to workplace incidents or a heated argument regarding Islam with a coworker. The only disciplinary notice was a 2014 warning that Farook was using too much sick leave.

According to San Bernardino County spokesperson David Wert, if a workplace argument regarding religion had occurred, that would not necessarily have suggested violence would result and would have been handled by a supervisor without formal write-ups in the employee’s personnel record.

“The county would have taken swift and decisive action in response to any employee who posed a threat to fellow employees or the public,” Wert said.

Legal actions against the county related to the mass shooting appear to have all fizzled out or were withdrawn. The only settlement the county has made public is a $140,000 settlement with a motorist struck by a sheriff’s deputy’s vehicle.

Former San Bernardino County CEO Greg Devereaux, seen Friday, Sept. 26, 2025, in Ontario, still struggles with emotions from his memories of the 2015 San Bernardino mass shooting. (Photo by Terry Pierson, The Press-Enterprise/SCNG)

Senior San Bernardino County officials said they never investigated if there were red flags in Farook’s personnel file the county had missed.

“We didn’t worry about ‘why,’” former San Bernardino County CEO Greg Devereaux said. “We had a county that had to keep functioning. And we had to take care of the employees and their families.”

To Rutherford, the shooting was terrorism.

“These people came to work on an ordinary day to do an ordinary job as county employees and ending up giving their lives, having their lives taken for … we don’t completely know,” she said. “I believe it was because of the terrorist intentions that (Farook) stated. And it can happen to anybody on any day.”

Increased security at county facilities is discussed in the county’s 205-page organizational review of its response to the mass shooting, published in 2018. The measures included adding more security cameras and remote-locking doors.

“Once we understood the nature of the event, it was likely there is no more risk from that day on than there had been for decades,” Devereaux said. “But that’s not how the employees felt.”

The report doesn’t discuss procedures to flag dangerous employees before tragedy occurs.

‘That’s half of the room’

On the day of the attack, shooting Farook’s coworkers may have been the back-up plan.

“At approximately 10:30 a.m. PST, during a presentation, possibly during the ‘Two Truths and a Lie’ game, (redacted) observed Farook exit the room through the glass doors closer to the management table which exit to the east parking lot,” an environmental health services employee told the FBI.

Farook left behind a black bag with three long cylindrical items inside: radio-controlled pipe bombs. The bombs were built using explosive powder Marquez had bought years before, according to the criminal complaint against him. Investigators believe Farook and Malik learned how to make the bombs online.

But the bombs didn’t go off. Investigators have speculated the bombs may have been intended to kill first responders, similar to the 91 Freeway attack plan.

Farook and Malik returned from the parking lot and opened fire with semiautomatic rifles, one of which they had tried to modify to turn into an automatic weapon, according to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

“In any kind of mass shooting that there’s been when they’ve had those types of weapons, you see higher (numbers of) people who are wounded or deceased,” said Damian Meins’ daughter, Tina.

After the mass shooting, Tina Meins joined Everytown Survivor Network, a branch of Everytown for Gun Safety, a nonprofit advocating for strong gun control. She’s testified before Congress about the need for stronger gun laws.

The Meinses say if Farook and Mailk hadn’t had semi-automatic weapons, things might have been different.

“Even if my dad was still not going to make it out, perhaps we wouldn’t have had dozens wounded that are still living with the ramifications of those injuries still today,” Tina Meins said.

“There were 72 people in the room. And 36 of them were injured or killed,” Trenna Meins said. “That’s half of the room.”

In October 2020, Marquez was sentenced to 20 years in prison for conspiracy to commit terrorist acts and for making false statements when he acquired the rifles used in the Inland Regional Center shooting.

A courtroom sketch from Dec. 17, 2015, shows Enrique Marquez appearing in federal court in Riverside. (Bill Robles via AP, File)

‘You don’t know’

On Dec. 2 each year since 2015, mourners have gathered at memorials outside county headquarters and at Cal State San Bernardino to remember the dead.

“It’s not just the families — the immediate families — that are suffering through this,” Trenna Meins said. “It’s the other families, the cousins, the uncles. It’s friends. It’s communities.”

Family and friends watch Saturday, Dec. 2, 2023, as Cal State San Bernardino professor Michael Nguyen rings the bell in the Peace Garden 14 times to honor each of the 14 people killed in the Dec. 2, 2015, terrorist attack. (File photo by Terry Pierson, The Press-Enterprise/SCNG)

Childhood trauma. Online radicalization. Problems at work. None of these, alone or together, fully explains why Farook and his wife committed mass murder.

“Many of the factors correlated with mass shootings, from childhood trauma to gun ownership, are true for millions of people who never commit mass shootings,” Peterson and Densley write in their Violence Project book.

There have been at least 195 mass shootings in the United States since Dec. 2, 2015, causing the deaths of 1,398 people, according to the Violence Project database.

“It makes you wonder,” Rutherford said. “Can you ever truly know another person? Can you ever truly trust another person? We all think that we’ve got these antenna that can tell exactly someone’s intentions and motives. You can’t. You don’t know.”

Staff writer Jeff Horseman contributed to this report.

Note: This story has been updated to clarify details about Enrique Marquez’s conviction on criminal charges.

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South St. Paul: Teen charged with dragging woman with vehicle over vape cartridge dispute

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A 17-year-old is charged with dragging a young woman with a vehicle during a dispute in South St. Paul, causing a brain injury.

The victim’s mother reported last week that she was doing better, though “we still have a long road ahead of us,” according to a statement shared by police on her behalf.

South St. Paul officers responded at 12:13 a.m. on Nov. 17 on a report of a woman who was severely injured and who’d been dragged by a vehicle. She was unconscious in the middle of Third Avenue South, south of Southview Boulevard.

The victim’s boyfriend reported she’d gone outside to talk to someone. He heard arguing and tires squealing, saw her hanging onto the car and ran to help her.

Police were later told that the woman “met an unknown person to buy a ‘cart,’” said a juvenile petition against the 17-year-old.

“Cart” is short for “cartridge” and it was for THC oil, according to South St. Paul Police Chief Brian Wicke. Such a cartridge is used in a vaping device.

The woman walked into the street to meet the seller and soon after “they began to raise their voices as if they were arguing,” the petition said. A witness heard her say, “What do you mean that’s not enough?”

Video surveillance from a nearby home showed the woman standing at the driver’s side window of a sedan stopped in the street. “The vehicle accelerates, causing the tires to spin and squeal and the engine to rev up,” the petition said. “The suspect vehicle then drove away at a high rate of speed, dragging victim alongside the vehicle.”

The length of the skid mark from the vehicle accelerating was measured at 23 feet.

Police collected and reviewed surveillance footage, and followed the vehicle’s path to a gas station. The driver got out to pump gas and law enforcement took a screenshot of him from the video.

The photo was sent to St. Paul police, who named the suspect as a 17-year-old from St. Paul who’d been recently arrested as the driver of a vehicle that had been stolen at gunpoint, the petition said.

Police also identified the license plate, which showed the vehicle’s registered owner lives in St. Paul and is a relative of the 17-year-old.

Police went to the teen’s high school Nov. 24. He was found with a “cart” that was the same brand as the cart found near the injured woman in the street.

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The teen’s grandmother declined to allow police to take a statement from him.

The Dakota County Attorney’s Office charged him with criminal vehicular operation, saying he drove in “a grossly negligent manner” resulting in great bodily harm.

The victim underwent surgery that involved a portion of her skull being removed. Her mother said in last week’s statement that she’d been moved to the hospital’s rehabilitation unit, from which she would be able to go home.

“Everyone is so impressed and inspired by how well she’s doing,” the statement said. “The community support has been instrumental.”