Can Democrats replace Biden as nominee for president?

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Taylor Croft and Shannon McCaffrey | (TNS) The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

President Joe Biden’s performance at the CNN Presidential Debate against former President Donald Trump has some questioning whether he should remain the Democratic nominee for president.

After witnessing Biden’s several verbal missteps Thursday night during the debate, several people took to social media to urge the Democratic Party to replace him as the nominee mere months before the general election in November.

Former 2020 Democratic presidential candidate Andrew Yang posted to X, the site formerly known as Twitter, urging Democrats to “nominate someone else — before it’s too late.”

Others joined in, calling on the Democratic Party to replace Biden, including conservative media pundit Ann Coulter and U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas). Cruz posted to X that he believes “the odds are now 80% that the Dems dump Biden.”

But replacing Biden is not that simple. Because he won the May Presidential Preference Primary election, delegates to the Democratic National Convention are pledged to support him for the nomination. Plus, the party rules discourage challenging incumbent Democrats within the party.

The Democratic National Convention will be held in August. That’s when the party will officially select its nominee for president.

The issue was a major topic of discussion for CNN panelists after the debate ended Thursday night. Political analyst Van Jones, a special adviser to former President Barack Obama, called Biden’s debate performance “painful” and suggested he should step aside.

“I love Joe Biden. I worked for Joe Biden. He didn’t do well at all,” Jones said on CNN. “He’s doing the best that he can, but he had a test to meet tonight to restore confidence of the country and of the base and he failed to do that.

“There is time for this party to figure out a different way forward if he will allow us to do that.”

Charles Bullock, a political science professor at the University of Georgia, said if Biden chose to withdraw, delegates who were pledged to Biden through the primary election process would then be free to throw their support behind another candidate at the convention.

After the convention, the decision would go to members of the Democratic National Committee.

If Biden did not agree to step aside, delegates could still change their alliances at the convention but things could get messy, Bullock said.

Unless Biden steps aside, the path forward with another candidate is significantly less clear.

Democrats in Georgia remained steadfast in supporting Biden after the debate while avoiding questions about whether Biden should let someone else run.

“The people I’m talking to in the state of Georgia, they’re not focused on style. They’re thinking about their families. They’re thinking about whether or not they can afford childcare so they can get to work,” said Georgia U.S. Sen. Raphael Warnock.

“Joe Biden has earned the respect of the American public,” Atlanta Mayor Andre Dickens said. “You know, tonight is one night. Biden has shown over the last three and a half years that he’s right there with the American people.”

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Biden’s election betting odds plummet after debate with Trump

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By Todd Dewey, Las Vegas Review-Journal

LAS VEGAS — President Joe Biden’s odds to win the 2024 election took a major hit in betting markets after Thursday night’s debate with former President Donald Trump.

While Biden’s odds dropped, the odds on several other potential Democratic candidates improved amid calls from some pundits for the president to drop out of the race.

Before the debate, Trump had a 55.7% chance, which equates to a -126 favorite, to win back the White House, and Biden had a 35.9% chance, which equates to the +179 second choice.

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After the debate, Trump’s chances improved to 59.7%, or -148, while Biden’s chances plummeted to 22.0%, or +355, according to electionbettingodds.com, which averages live odds from Betfair.com, FTX.com, Polymarket.com, PredictIt.org and Smarkets.com.

A negative number represents how much a bettor must wager to win $100. In this case, a bettor would have to wager $148 to win $100 on Trump’s being elected. A positive number represents how much a bettor would make on a $100 wager. In this case, a bettor would win $355 on a $100 wager on Biden to win the election.

Betting on politics isn’t permitted at U.S. sportsbooks.

Trump moved from a -150 favorite to -175 at BetOnline, an offshore sportsbook that isn’t regulated in the U.S., while Biden soared from a +130 underdog to +300, or 3-1.

A CNN flash poll showed that 67% of debate viewers felt Trump won, while only 33% believed Biden prevailed.

Betting on Newsom, Obama

BetOnline also reported significant movement on other Democratic candidates, as California Gov. Gavin Newsom’s odds were slashed from 25-1 to 7-1 and former first lady Michelle Obama’s odds dropped from 22-1 to 16-1.

“We just kept taking bets over and over again on Gavin Newsom and Michelle Obama,” BetOnline political oddsmaker Paul Krishnamurty said.

Vice President Kamala Harris’ odds were cut in half from 40-1 to 20-1.

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Minnesota Orchestra president and CEO Michelle Miller Burns to depart in September

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Minnesota Orchestra president and CEO Michelle Miller Burns will leave her role on Sept. 13 to take the same position with the Dallas Symphony Orchestra, the Minnesota Orchestra announced Friday.

Burns, who has been with the orchestra since 2018 and previously held multiple positions with the DSO, will work with board chair Nancy Lindahl, musician leadership and senior staff to ensure a smooth transition. The board will begin a search for her successor soon.

Michelle Miller Burns (Photo by Tracy Martin)

“Michelle has come to mean so much to this organization over the last six years,” said Lindahl in a news release. “She has expertly navigated extremely challenging times, exemplifying collaborative leadership and demonstrating what it means to listen to colleagues and build and tend relationships with people. It has been my great pleasure to work alongside her in championing the Minnesota Orchestra and, on behalf of the entire organization, we share big congratulations and send her south to Dallas with our best wishes.”

During her tenure with the Minnesota Orchestra, Burns launched a multi-year revenue growth plan, unveiled a new leadership model and redesigned format for its long-running summer festival and guided the orchestra through the pandemic. She also was pivotal in hiring Danish conductor Thomas Søndergård as the orchestra’s 11th music director and negotiated a new agreement with orchestra musicians that extends until 2026.

“My husband Gary and I have always considered Dallas a second home, so this new role was a deeply enticing opportunity,” Burns said. “Even as this transition is announced, though, my heart is full of gratitude for the outstanding musicians and music-making of the Minnesota Orchestra and for the many board members, colleagues and friends who have made my six years in the Twin Cities so joyful and meaningful.”

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Debate-watchers in the Biden and Trump camps seem to agree on something. Biden had a bad night

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By CALVIN WOODWARD Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — “Oh, Joe.”

That gasp, from patrons at a Chicago bar when President Joe Biden first stumbled verbally in his debate with Donald Trump, spoke for a lot of Americans on Thursday night.

In watch parties, bars, a bowling alley and other venues where people across the country gathered to tune in, Trump supporters, happily, and Biden supporters, in their angst if not dread, seemed to largely agree they had witnessed a lopsided showdown.

By the end of the 90-plus minutes, some Democrats were saying what partisans say to put the best face on things: It’s still early. One debate doesn’t necessarily sway the nation. Judge him by what he’s done and wants to do, not by how he says things.

But many were let down.

Biden “just didn’t have the spark that we needed tonight,” Rosemarie DeAngelus, a Democrat from South Portland, Maine, said from her watch party at Broadway Bowl. Trump, she said, showed “more spunk or more vigor” even if, in her view, he was telling a pack of lies.

Fellow Biden supporter and bowling alley attendee Lynn Miller, from nearby Old Orchard Beach, said: “It’s like somebody gave Trump an Adderall and I don’t think they gave Joe one.” (The drug is used for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder.)

“I’ve never seen Trump seem so coherent,” Miller said. “And I hate to say this, but Joe seemed a little bit off. But I still support him over Trump because Trump lied about every single thing that happened.”

Trump supporters certainly agreed that the difference in energy and coherence between the candidates was striking. Wearing her red MAGA hat at a festive pro-Trump party in the Detroit suburb of Novi, Bonnie Call said of Biden: “He just cannot think on his feet at all. President Trump is just on.”

In McAllen, Texas, near the Mexico border, London’s Bar & Grill is normally loud on a day close to the weekend, but many patrons were quiet as they absorbed the debate from TV screens. Here, Biden supporters, Trump supporters and undecided voters mingled.

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Among them, Vance Gonzales, 40, a moderate Democrat, said the debate convinced him that “we need another Democratic candidate, to be honest, because this is not competitive.” He said of Biden: “He’s not on point with anything. I think it’s disappointing.”

Marco Perez, 53, voted for Biden in the last election and voiced frustration with what he was hearing and seeing. “I want to hear more facts, more action as opposed to more finger-pointing, more accusations or false accusations,” he said.

His friend Virginia Lopez, sitting with him, came away still not knowing whom she will support in November. She heard snappy but unsatisfying answers from the Republican. “Trump is just deflecting in all the answers and he’s just lying,” she said. “It doesn’t feel like a real debate.”

Biden? “I just feel like he’s too old,” she said.

Sitting up at the bar, Hector Mercado, 72, a veteran wearing a U.S. military beret, was a distinctive patron as he listened intently to the debate. Although he was a Democrat for several years, he switched parties under Ronald Reagan, a Republican.

Mercado heard Biden accuse Trump of making derogatory comments about veterans, but it didn’t sway his support for Trump. “Yeah, he said a few things bad about veterans at one point back in the early days,” he said of Trump. “But now he’s saying, ‘No, I back up the veterans and I never had any problems with him. I got a raise in my VA disability when Trump was president.”

Biden’s performance left him cold. “I think Trump is stronger,” he said, “and Biden is a little weak.”

In a Tijuana migrant shelter over the border in Mexico, people mainly from southern Mexico who are hoping to apply for asylum in the U.S. watched the debate in folding chairs in front of a screen on the wall.

The migrants, most of whom have been waiting for months for their appointments in that process, stared blankly at the screen as a Spanish-translated version of the debate played on. They watched an American democratic ritual in motion.

Andrea, who did not give her last name due to threats of violence back home, has lived at the shelter for nine months. Her debate takeaway: “Well, I feel that the people of the United States don’t love Mexicans now.”

At Hula Hula, a tiki bar in Seattle’s Capitol Hill neighborhood, patrons cheered wildly as their city got a mention from Trump — even if it came up when the Republican was complaining about lawlessness. Biden supporter Amy Pottinger of Seattle said the Democratic president did best when Trump made him angry.

“Once he started talking about Roe v. Wade, it was like Biden woke up and was here,” she said.

At the same Chicago bar where patrons exclaimed about Biden’s stumbles — the M Lounge in the South Loop — the president scored with this zinger to Trump: “You have the morals of an alley cat.”

“Whoa!” the viewers there said.

But at a Democratic watch party in downtown Atlanta, it was a night of jitters.

“I’m so nervous, I feel like my kid is going onstage,” Georgia state Sen. Nikki Merritt said early on, patting her stomach as if she had butterflies.

Technicians struggled with sound and video. During one outage, the crowd chanted “Let’s Go Joe!”

“I want to hear Joe Biden talking to the voters and ignoring the crazy man in the room,” said Matthew Wilson, the Georgia Democratic Party’s vice chairman.

But there was no ignoring the man they called crazy.

Associated Press journalists Charlie Arbogast in Chicago; Valerie Gonzalez in McAllen, Texas; Gregory Bull in Tijuana, Mexico; Mike Householder in Detroit; Robert Bukaty in South Portland, Maine; Mike Pesoli in Washington, D.C.; and Lindsey Wasson in Seattle contributed to this report.