Q&A: How a new Girl Scouts program aims to cultivate the next generation of leaders

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The number of girls in Girl Scouts drops dramatically in high school.

Girl Scouts River Valleys wants to change that.

This month, the organization is launching an initiative designed to help teen girls and gender-expansive youth in grades 9-12 “navigate the challenging transition from adolescence to adulthood,” said Paulette Bonneur, Girl Scouts River Valleys’ director of new strategic initiatives.

The Girl Scout Leadership Institute, which will meet once a month from October through May, will teach critical-thinking skills in a cohort-style program. Topics will include personal finance, college preparation, Federal Student Aid, résumé preparation, mental health and career development.

“We’re responding directly to the needs of post-pandemic youth,” Bonneur said. “They know this world is changing fast. Our aim is to plant the seeds of success for them to be set up for real-world wins from the moment they leave Girl Scouts.”

The institute will launch on Oct. 10 at North Hennepin Community College in Brooklyn Park; the cohort will split its time between Hennepin Technical College, St. Paul College and the University of St. Thomas, Bonneur said.

“The idea is that if we want our girls to be leaders, if we want them to be college-ready, what’s the best way that we could do that?” Bonneur said. “It’s by getting them accustomed to being on a college campus, so that when they go to college for the first time, they don’t have that pit in the bottom of your stomach and think, ‘I don’t belong here. I’m not smart enough. I’m not good enough.’ We’re setting them up to ensure their future success.”

Girl Scouts River Valleys, which serves nearly 17,200 girls in southern Minnesota, western Wisconsin and one county in Iowa, is using some of the $4.2 million it received from MacKenzie Scott in 2022 to pay for the new program. Scott has become a major philanthropist since her divorce from Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, donating more than $17.3 billion to more than 2,300 nonprofits since 2020, including more than $139 million to 33 Minnesota-based nonprofits.

Many of Scott’s gifts are to organizations that work with historically marginalized race, gender and sexual-identity groups. She makes only unrestricted gifts — leaving it to each recipient to use their grants how they see fit.

“It demonstrates a level of trust and confidence that says, ‘We see you; we see your work and the deep impact it’s having, and we believe in what you’re doing,’” Girl Scouts River Valleys CEO Marisa Williams told the Pioneer Press earlier this year.

The Girl Scout Leadership Institute is building on work that the Girl Scouts have done since 1912, “equipping young women with the courage, confidence and character they need to lead,” Williams said.

Participants will have a chance to “engage in courageous conversations and explore career opportunities by learning directly from the women who lead in those fields, empowering them to envision their own bright futures,” she said. “We’re helping to cultivate the next generation of leaders that our communities need.”

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Bonneur, who was hired in February to oversee the new initiative, previously served as director of student life at North Hennepin Community College and as an admissions officer at Minnesota State University, Mankato.

Bonneur is a published author, professional speaker and a Mentored Girl Scout troop leader for BIPOC Mentored Troop 18793, one of the few Girl Scout troops in the state run by women of color working to inspire young girls of color. She lives in Maple Grove with her two children: Harper, 8, and Hunter, 4. She and Harper have written six books together, including “I Believe In Myself: A Girl Power Gratitude, Doodle and Positive Affirmation Journal,” “Everybody Love Your Body” and “Everybody Let’s Get Cookin’.”

Bonneur spoke with the Pioneer Press recently about Troop 18793 — and about her quest to win a year’s supply of Girl Scout cookies.

The transcript is edited for clarity and conciseness.

Q&A: Girl Scouts River Valleys’ Paulette Bonneur

Q: How did you get involved with the Girl Scouts?

A: I was trying to win free cookies. I love food, and I’m just not even gonna lie about that. I was trying to get some free cookies.

Q: Are you serious?

Paulette Bonneur, director of new strategic initiatives for Girl Scouts River Valleys, outside the organization’s office in Brooklyn Center on Sept. 20, 2024. (Courtesy of Girl Scouts River Valleys)

A: I put an alarm on my phone for when my daughter turned 5, so I would remember to sign her up for Girl Scouts. So on a random day, my phone alarm went off. I’m, like, “Oh, yeah. Girl Scouts.” Where does everybody look (to get information) these days? I went on social media to see what was there, and the Girl Scouts had an Instagram post about a contest to win a year’s supply of Girl Scout cookies. I quickly crafted “Future Girl Scout” and “Future Girl Scout Mom” shirts, along with Girl Scout Cookie hair bows for Harper.

Q: Did you win?

A: I was sure we would win, but we didn’t. We did get a message from our local council asking if I’d be interested in leading a Mentored Troop for BIPOC (Black, Indigenous and People of Color) women and Girl Scouts because of our visible excitement for Girl Scouts. I hadn’t previously considered it, but at that moment, I knew it was something I had to do.

Q: Tell me about the troop. Where are you based?

A: We have 14 girls. We meet in Brooklyn Center, but our girls are from all over. The common thread is that parents saw an opportunity for their girls, and now, through Girl Scouting, we’re all connected.

Q: How long have you been meeting?

A: We’re going into year four now with our girls, and my oldest girls, my fourth-graders, they’re doing Highest Awards projects. I would never have thought I’d be doing this, ever. But I see the vision. If we can’t start to help them before they get to college, what are they left to do? One of the biggest things that we did with my troop was we did a mini-conference, and we invited everybody in the community. It didn’t matter if they were a Girl Scout or not. Each presenter hosted a different breakout room. It was active engagement, learning how to do all these different things. And that’s when I was like, “Girl, I think you’ve got something. Yeah, I think you might be onto something.”

Q: And that led to you working for Girl Scouts River Valleys?

A: Honestly, if you could write a job for me that is perfect, where I still get to meet with partners and talk to the community, but also get to be silly with the girls and talk about things like, “Let’s just be real. What you got going on, girl?”

Q: Talk about the importance of the Girl Scout Leadership Institute. Why is it needed?

A: Girls are facing so many mental-health challenges, especially post-COVID. They’re not confident in themselves, and they’re unsure of their bodies. They’re unsure of what their future has to hold. Those are real concerns. Data shows that they are lonely. So the Girl Scout Leadership Institute is really a place where girls can come as they are.

Q: How has your work in higher education helped inform your current work?

A: College students were expected to know about possible careers. They were expected to know what they wanted to do. Some didn’t know what they wanted to study in college. So how would we put those expectations on girls if we didn’t give them the resources and the tools?

Q: I like how you’ve worked out a way for the Girl Scout Leadership Institute to work with everyone’s crazy schedules.

A: Girls are busy. They have sports. They have jobs. They have school. They have all the different things. But we only need one time a month, which is really cool. The program sessions are correlated to patches and badges, but we remixed it. So that’s been really cool to look at. Hey, what can we do in terms of college preparation? Are we going on college tours? You hear girls say all the time, “When I go to college, I want to get an apartment. I’m gonna live on my own.” Well, what does that actually look like? And what does it cost? We’ll have our financial experts there to talk about, “Hey, here are the implications for what that is. Here’s what might be affected. Your credit score, right?” Those are things that girls are not being taught right now, and those are very important things because they may be life decisions that set them up for maybe success or failure in the future if they don’t do it right. We also want to talk about predatory lending. I know for me, when I went to college, it was, “Hey, free pizza if you sign up for this credit card.” That’s really not good. And it doesn’t help you for your future, and a lot of times they don’t know that, right? They get into a situation where they don’t have the knowledge. So those are the kinds of things that we’ll be teaching them, bringing in community experts and local leaders.

Q: Is this a national program, or is this just here?

A: The Girl Scout Leadership Institute is unique to Girl Scouts River Valleys. I feel like many of the things that we’re doing, like our Mentored Troop program, are unique to Girl Scouts River Valleys. We really do set the precedent in terms of “Here’s what we see as a need, and here’s how we’re going to move forward.” It’s a great thing because then, you know, our sister councils can come along to see what’s worked for us and how they can do that in their areas.

Q: So is the hope that this would then be replicated elsewhere around the country?

A: That would be great. I mean, for us, it’s a new model of Girl Scouting. It’s a new pathway of Girl Scouting, and if it works for us, I don’t see why it wouldn’t work for another council.

Q: Is it just for high school students?

A: This year, we’re piloting for high school students. So ninth- through 12th-graders can join our Girl Scout Leadership Institute. The vision is that we would have a sixth- through 12th-grade program later, but for our pilot year, ninth- through 12th-graders are our focus. We have our high school girls that are like, “Hey, there’s nothing really for us. We want to do other things. We also don’t want to feel like we’re in a classroom.” I’ve talked to girls, and they’re like, “We go to school already. Make it fun, OK?”

Q: How do you do that?

A: I’m a former educator. I worked in student affairs for 14 years, and I like the concept of edu-tainment. We’re educating, but we’re also entertaining. We’re making it fun and engaging, but there’s also a lot of learning happening behind the scenes. It’s very strategic in terms of setting them up for success.

Q: I love it. They don’t even know that they’re learning.

A: That’s the best. We did it when I worked in education, too, right? Like, you have all these fun activities, and you plan them out very thoroughly. And on the front end, you’re just having a ton of fun. And on the back end, you know, maybe six months later, a year later, you’re like, “Whoa, now I know that I can step on a college campus and not be nervous because I was in Girl Scout Leadership Institute.” All of our sessions are going to be held on college campuses, so just subtle things like that really set our girls up for success.

Q: Have you been getting a good response from community members?

A: Yes. So many people have been stepping up. … We should be excited about helping girls. We should be excited about girls wanting to do better for their future. We should be excited about what our future is going to look like.

Q: Tell me about the first session.

A: Our October session is the launch, and then our program sessions start in November. Ninth- through 12th-graders is a huge range, and everyone knows that they’re not learning the same things because they’re at different levels in their lives. The ninth- and 10th-graders will be together, and the 11th- and 12th-graders will be together. We will have two simultaneous sessions that focus on what that age group needs. In November, the ninth- and 10th-graders will be studying “Slaying Fashion with Science,” and the 11th- and 12th-grade session will be on “The Beauty of Entrepreneurship.”

Q: They sound great. It feels like a really nice way to keep older girls involved.

A: Usually, we see a drop-off around sixth grade. They have all these other important things going on, but that’s the time when they need us the most, right? There’s a lot happening at school. Social media is just a lot different than what it used to be. You know, one of our sessions is talking about cybersecurity and how to be a leader in the world and keeping yourself safe, because there’s a lot happening online that we can’t even account for.

Q: What else do you want people to know about this? How will you know the program is a success a year from now?

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A: In a year from now, I’ll know that the program is a success when we are at our last session celebrating with over 200 girls, and they are ready to go off into the next chapter of their lives. They are confident in whatever it is that they want to do in the world. I also know it will have been a success when my daughter, who is currently a third-grader, tells me that she’s excited to join Girl Scout Leadership Institute.

Girl Scout Leadership Institute

Enrollment in the Girl Scout Leadership Institute for both current Girl Scouts and non-Girl Scouts is open.

There will be an Oct. 10 launch event at North Hennepin Community College.

The institute officially kicks off with programming on Nov. 9.

For more information, go to gsrv.gs/future.

Literary calendar for week of Oct. 6

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Yangsze Choo (James Cham / Macmillan Publishers)

YANGSZE CHOO: Author of historical fantasy including “The Ghost Bride,” made into a Netflix drama, discusses her latest novel about shapeshifters, “The Fox Wife.” In-person, presented by Club Book. Free. 7 p.m. Wednesday, Scott County Library, Savage. Go to clubbook.org/portfolio-posts/yangsze-choo.

RAMONA EMERSON: New Mexico-based author introduces “Exposure,” a follow-up to her bestselling debut “Shutter,” featuring a forensic photographer working for the Albuquerque police force. In the new thriller Rita grapples with a serial killer and the ghosts he leaves behind. Emerson is a Dine (Navajo) writer, filmmaker and photographer. She and her husband, producer Kelly Byars, have a production company, Reel Indian Pictures. In conversation with Minnesota mystery writer Marcie Rendon, who calls Emerson’s book “Intense, gripping, moving and so gorgeously written … A stunner!” 6 p.m. Thursday, Once Upon a Crime, 604 W. 26th St., Mpls.

(Courtesy of Soho Press)

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MOLLY BETH GRIFFIN: Minnesotan celebrates the launch of her new picture book “Just Us,” providing comfort and warmth at this time of changing seasons. 10:30 a.m. Saturday, Red Balloon Bookshop, 891 Grand Ave., St. Paul.

KATRINA MONROE: Minnesota author of “They Drown Our Daughters” introduces “Through the Midnight Door,” a thriller about two sisters and an old house. In conversation with Tasha Coryell. 7 p.m. Wednesday, Magers & Quinn, 3038 Hennepin Ave. S., Mpls. Registration required at magersandquinn.com/events.

Ramona Emerson (Courtesy of Soho Press)

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JAYNE ANN PHILLIPS: Discusses her Pulitzer Prize-winning novel “Night Watch,” set in a backroads asylum in the bleak near-apocalyptic aftermath of the Civil War. Free. Virtual event in partnership with Club Book reading series and Red Balloon Bookshop. Go to clubbook.org/portfolio-posts/jayne-anne-phllips.

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Today in History: October 6, Pope John Paul II visits the White House

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Today is Sunday, Oct. 6, the 280th day of 2024. There are 86 days left in the year.

Today in history:

On Oct. 6, 1979, Pope John Paul II, on a weeklong U.S. tour, became the first pontiff to visit the White House, where he was received by President Jimmy Carter.

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In 1927, the era of talking pictures arrived with the opening of “The Jazz Singer” starring Al Jolson, a feature film containing both silent and sound-synchronized sequences.

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In 1976, President Gerald R. Ford, in his second presidential debate with Democrat Jimmy Carter, asserted that there was “no Soviet domination of eastern Europe.”

In 1981, Egyptian President Anwar Sadat was shot to death by members of the Egyptian Islamic Jihad while reviewing a military parade.

In 2007, British adventurer Jason Lewis completed the first human-powered circumnavigation of the globe, spanning 13 years and 46,000 miles (74,000 kilometers).

In 2010, Philadelphia Phillies pitcher Roy Halladay tossed just the second postseason no-hitter in MLB history, blanking the Cincinnati Reds 4-0.

In 2014, the Supreme Court unexpectedly cleared the way for a dramatic expansion of gay marriage in the United States as it rejected appeals from five states seeking to preserve their bans, effectively making such marriages legal in 30 states.

In 2018, in the narrowest Senate confirmation of a Supreme Court justice in nearly a century and a half, Brett Kavanaugh was confirmed by a 50-48 vote; he was sworn in hours later.

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Actor Britt Ekland is 82.
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Pro Football Hall of Fame coach Tony Dungy is 69.
Bowler Walter Ray Williams Jr. is 65.
Actor Elisabeth Shue is 61.
House Majority Leader Steve Scalise, R-La., is 59.
Actor Emily Mortimer is 53.
Basketball Hall of Famer Rebecca Lobo is 51.
Actor Ioan Gruffudd (YOH’-ihn GRIH’-fihth) is 51.
Actor Jeremy Sisto is 50.
Football Hall of Famer Richard Seymour is 45.
NFL quarterback Trevor Lawrence is 25.
Social media personality Addison Rae is 24.
Basketball player Bronny James is 20.

Some testimony from Madeline Kingsbury’s friends, family barred from Fravel murder trial

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A jury will not hear statements from a friend who said Madeline Kingsbury told her weeks before her death that if something bad happened to her, it would be caused by her ex-boyfriend, Adam Fravel, the judge in the case has ruled.

Fravel was Kingsbury’s boyfriend and the father of her two children. He is accused of killing the Winona woman. A change of venue was ordered in June, and Fravel’s jury trial is scheduled to begin Monday in Mankato.

Madeline Kingsbury. (Courtesy photo)

Fravel and his legal team objected to the introduction of relationship and hearsay evidence shared by friends and family members of Kingsbury during pretrial appearances at trial.

Winona County District Judge Nancy Buytendorp accepted some of the defense team’s arguments.

Buytendorp ruled that Kingsbury’s friend Lauren Dubois will not be allowed to testify about what Kingsbury told her in March 2023 at Mayo Clinic. Dubois told investigators that Kingsbury told her if something happened to her or her children, “It was Adam.”

“Although this statement by the alleged victim was voluntarily made, it lacks sufficient detail and context, which undermines its circumstantial guarantees of trustworthiness. Furthermore, these is a significant risk that the jury may interpret the statement as a definitive indication of the defendant’s actions,” Buytendorp wrote in court documents.

Dubois’ testimony about Kingsbury asking Dubois about how she left her own abusive relationship will also not be allowed.

Testimony from Kingsbury’s father’s wife, Catherine, about Kingsbury telling her that Kingsbury’s daughter had seen too much will also not be allowed during the trial. Testimony from witnesses about Fravel having access to Kingsbury’s phone also will not reach the jury.

Buytendorp ruled witness testimony regarding statements from Kingsbury related to abuse must be specific and detailed.

She decided testimony about an event where Fravel allegedly threatened that Kingsbury would end up like Gabby Petito is allowed, except from Kingsbury’s intimate partner, Spencer Sullivan.

Buytendorp determined that witnesses, who could number more than 180 from both the prosecution and defense, would be allowed to testify about some statements Kingsbury allegedly made related to her safety right before her disappearance, including about Fravel’s behavior that Kingsbury shared, but they will not be able to testify about her state of mind.

Other testimony from pre-trial hearings that will be allowed include statements about Fravel not helping with household responsibilities, Kingsbury’s plans to leave Fravel and her concerns about doing so, a friend offering Kingsbury and her children a place to stay but Kingsbury declining, a friend hearing Fravel make degrading comments directed at Kingsbury, and injuries to Kingsbury observed by her friends and Kingsbury’s explanations for them.

Adam Fravel. (Winona County Sheriff’s Office)

Both parties agreed testimony about Kingsbury’s friends seeing “assaultive behavior” when on FaceTime calls with Kingsbury would be allowed, according to the court documents Wednesday.

On Wednesday, Buytendorp also granted a motion to sequester witnesses during the entire trial, which is scheduled to start Monday and continue through Nov. 1 in Mankato.

According to a memo filed on Wednesday, the decision was made to ensure witnesses who are waiting to testify are not influenced by the testimony of others.

“Given the gravity of the charges and to protect the integrity of the trial process, it is utterly reasonable that witnesses be sequestered from the courtroom and from accessing any audio, visual or print coverage for the entirety of the trial including during opening statements and voir dire,” Buytendorp ruled.

Buytendorp also agreed to prohibit spectators in the courtroom and witnesses from wearing items that “reference the alleged victim, violence against women, ‘justice for Maddi’ or which might otherwise elicit an emotive response from jurors,” according to court documents filed Wednesday.

Buytendorp wrote in a memorandum about the decision: “Items such as slogans, arm bands, badges, stickers or similar materials in the courtroom that reference this case, the alleged victim or campaign against gender-based violence may be highly prejudicial to the defendant. Such items could compromise the jury’s impartiality and threaten the defendant’s right to a fair trial. Therefore, all such items and any spectator conduct that could disrupt courtroom decorum are strictly prohibited.”

Fravel faces charges of murder in the first degree while committing domestic abuse with a past pattern of domestic abuse, murder in the first degree premeditated, murder in the second degree and murder in the second degree without intent while committing a felony.

Fravel would face a mandatory sentence of life in prison if he is convicted of one of the first-degree murder charges. If he is convicted of one of the second-degree murder charges, he would face a maximum sentence of 40 years.

Fravel’s bail is set at $2 million with conditions and $3 million without conditions.

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